(2018-02-18, 10:28 AM)cdoan Wrote:

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Maybe gun control should start here.

do you have any actual proof the the Colorado shooter was a registered democrat ? I have come to realize that those who yell Fake News is bad are equally or more generator of Fake News .....

(2018-02-18, 10:23 AM)cdoan Wrote: Gun Free Zone makes school a safe zone only for mass murderers,  because they know people on school ground do not have guns to shoot back.  

We have enough laws to prevent mass shooting on school ground.  However mass murderers on school ground have violated every gun laws.  Now what laws can prevent a person from breaking them, but only making victims defendless?

Gun Free Zone means nothing as it is just a mere political ploy . " We have enough laws to prevent mass shooting on school ground " . do we really ? some gun laws need modifications such as no bum stock , or make it harder for young people to obtain assault weapon ? I bet your next argument is that if a person wants to obtain an AR , they can do it any way ... well , then , let's make it tougher to those seller ( legally or illegally ) , or may be an increase in background check of individual who wants to buy guns ....

Having said this , the NRA have bought out the majority of American politicians , NOTHING will be done , the politicians speak  a good games but nothing will be done since they need the funding of the NRA  . Things will move on, life will move on , the NRA and its big marketing program will move on . People will forget ...

... until the next school shooting , then we will all have this circular discussion ...

so we pray everyday for the Lord , Đức Phật , Đức Chúa Jesus ... to bless , guide, and protect our children ... because the NRA won't ...

(2018-02-18, 10:12 AM)cdoan Wrote: Theo thống kê mà nói, chớ đừng dựa vào cảm xúc, thì bị chết vì tai nạn xe cộ còn cao hơn bị chết vì súng đạn.  Người có đầu óc thì không dựa vào đó mà cấm xe cộ.

So sánh thật khậ̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣p khiể̉̉̉̉̉n . Bo tay luôn. Trường họ̣̣c đáng lẽ là nơi trẻ em đi họ̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣c vui chơi thoải mái chứ không phải để cả học sinh và phụ huynh lo lắng không biết đưa con đi họ̣̣c đến chiều có còn gặp lại nó không. Những đứa sống sót cũng bị ảnh hưởng tâm lý. Bởi thế càng có nhiều cha mẹ quyết định home schooling

Mình bắt đầu bằng 1 câu hỏi thực tế nhá, với những người ủng hộ có quyền giữ gun 

-- Theo các bạn thì người dân Mỹ cần giữ súng để làm chi vậy ? Có lợi gì và hại gì ?

(2018-02-18, 11:43 AM)RungHoang Wrote: Mình bắt đầu bằng 1 câu hỏi thực tế nhá, với những người ủng hộ có quyền giữ gun 

-- Theo các bạn thì người dân Mỹ cần giữ súng để làm chi vậy ? Có lợi gì và hại gì ?

Number one reason, to protect the democracy against tyranny.  That is why it is the second amendment but not the last.

(2018-02-18, 11:10 AM)Dau-yeu Wrote: So sánh thật khậ̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣p khiể̉̉̉̉̉n . Bo tay luôn. Trường họ̣̣c đáng lẽ là nơi trẻ em đi họ̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣c vui chơi thoải mái chứ không phải để cả học sinh và phụ huynh lo lắng không biết đưa con đi họ̣̣ đến chiều có còn gặp lại nó không. Những đứa sống sót cũng bị ảnh hưởng tâm lý. Bởi thế càng có nhiều cha mẹ quyết định home schooling

Cấm súng đạn thì mọi người được an tâm?  Suy nghĩ lại đi nha.

(2018-02-18, 11:50 AM)cdoan Wrote: Cấm súng đạn thì mọi người được an tâm?  Suy nghĩ lại đi nha.

bro need to get the REAL fact ( not Fake News ) out of your head . NOBODY cấm any gun ownership . Our 2nd amendment is the law of the land ,  set by USA founding fathers back in 1770's . But with the changing of times and changing of society , certain rules need to be in placed to improve our way of life ... for the SAKE of our children ...

again , for the million of times , gun control is NOT gun prohibition ....  NRA is using this tactic to SCARE people , hello .... nobody is talking about " cấm " .... just hạn chế vài khuyết điểm của the law ...

My goodness

(2018-02-18, 10:49 AM)guest1221 Wrote: Gun Free Zone means nothing as it is just a mere political ploy . " We have enough laws to prevent mass shooting on school ground " . do we really ? some gun laws need modifications such as no bum stock , or make it harder for young people to obtain assault weapon ? I bet your next argument is that if a person wants to obtain an AR , they can do it any way ... well , then , let's make it tougher to those seller ( legally or illegally ) , or may be an increase in background check of individual who wants to buy guns ....

Having said this , the NRA have bought out the majority of American politicians , NOTHING will be done , the politicians speak  a good games but nothing will be done since they need the funding of the NRA  . Things will move on, life will move on , the NRA and its big marketing program will move on . People will forget ...

... until the next school shooting , then we will all have this circular discussion ...

so we pray everyday for the Lord , Đức Phật , Đức Chúa Jesus ... to bless , guide, and protect our children ... because the NRA won't ...

Most of the issues are just a political ploy, without actually solving the problem.  For example, what do you know about bumstock, AR 15, etc. but readily jump on the band wagons.  Yes I can shoot faster without a bumstock, be deadlier without an AR 15, and can machine an AR 15 in my gagrage.

Now what part of “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” that you don’t understand? It is in the Constitution of the United States of America, the supreme laws of the land.  Repeal it, have 2/3 of the states ratify it, etc..  Do it, instead of disregard the Constitution.

(2018-02-18, 11:57 AM)guest1221 Wrote: bro need to get the REAL fact ( not Fake News ) out of your head . NOBODY cấm any gun ownership . Our 2nd amendment is the law of the land ,  set by USA founding fathers back in 1770's . But with the changing of times and changing of society , certain rules need to be in placed to improve our way of life ... for the SAKE of our children ...

again , for the million of times , gun control is NOT gun prohibition ....  NRA is using this tactic to SCARE people , hello .... nobody is talking about " cấm " .... just hạn chế vài khuyết điểm của the law ...

My goodness

Like what?

(2018-02-18, 11:49 AM)cdoan Wrote: Number one reason, to protect the democracy against tyranny.  That is why it is the second amendment but not the last.

Có thiệt không đó ? Mấy người có súng là tại họ có sở thích đó thôi , chứ có ai mà vì sợ tyranny mà mua súng . 

CD thật sự nghỉ rằng nhưng người có súng trong nhà là những chiến sĩ có lý tưởng to tác vậy sao ? 

Bao nhiêu phần trăm lượng súng trên thị trường được dùng vào mục đích đó chứ ?

(2018-02-18, 11:59 AM)cdoan Wrote: Most of the issues are just a political ploy, without actually solving the problem.  For example, what do you know about bumstock, AR 15, etc. but readily jump on the band wagons.  Yes I can shoot faster without a bumstock, be deadlier without an AR 15, and can machine an AR 15 in my gagrage.

Now what part of “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” that you don’t understand? It is in the Constitution of the United States of America, the supreme laws of the land.  Repeal it, have 2/3 of the states ratify it, etc..  Do it, instead of disregard the Constitution.

Our supreme leader said bum stock is wrong and blamed the previous administration that signed the bill , then of course , did nothing afterward .  The Vegas shooter used bum stock to kill , reported by the police ..... and it is widely known that bumstock can enhance the speed of rapid fire ....

Again , for the trillion of times , NOBODY disagree with you on the 2nd amendment .... It is impossible to repeal the law so we try to do what we can to protect our children ... our love one, our joy to life .....

(2018-02-18, 12:02 PM)RungHoang Wrote: Có thiệt không đó ? Mấy người có súng là tại họ có sở thích đó thôi , chứ có ai mà vì sợ tyranny mà mua súng . 

CD thật sự nghỉ rằng nhưng người có súng trong nhà là những chiến sĩ có lý tưởng to tác vậy sao ? 

Bao nhiêu phần trăm lượng súng trên thị trường được dùng vào mục đích đó chứ ?

Lý do tại sao nước Mỹ có nền dân chủ lâu đời nhất trên thế giới.  Lý do tại sao mà đó là tu chính án thứ nhì, chỉ sau quyền tự do, ngôn luận, hội họp, tôn giáo, vv.  Những ngừoi viết hiến pháp thừa hiểu là không có tu chính án thứ nhì thì cả bản hiến pháp chỉ là lời hứa hẹn của các chính trị gia, họ có thể cho và lấy bất cứ lúc nào.

Cứng có súng không?  Nếu cưng có vì lý do gì đó là rieng của cưng.  Đừng suy nghĩ và trả lời cho người khác.

(2018-02-18, 12:00 PM)cdoan Wrote: Like what?

may be some age back ground check for legal gun purchaser ... ( I wrote in previous posts but I guess you didn't care to read ) ...  If you can not legally buy alcohol , perhaps you should not be allow to buy gun ....

again for the trillion million times , we try to do what we can to protect our children , the love of our lives . You can still own your gun , as our constitution allows ...

(2018-02-18, 12:06 PM)guest1221 Wrote: Our supreme leader said bum stock is wrong and blamed the previous administration that signed the bill , then of course , did nothing afterward .  The Vegas shooter used bum stock to kill , reported by the police ..... and it is widely known that bumstock can enhance the speed of rapid fire ....

Again , for the trillion of times , NOBODY disagree with you on the 2nd amendment .... It is impossible to repeal the law so we try to do what we can to protect our children ... our love one, our joy to life .....

To protect more of our children, outlaw abortion.  To go back to bumstock, do you know what it is?  How fast can it fire?  Its accuracy?  I was an US infantryman, and seldom fired my M16 on automatic mode, except for practice.  Want to bring bumstock to a fire fight?  Be my guest.

(2018-02-18, 12:10 PM)guest1221 Wrote: may be some age back ground check for legal gun purchaser ... ( I wrote in previous posts but I guess you didn't care to read ) ...  If you can not legally buy alcohol , perhaps you should not be allow to buy gun ....

again for the trillion million times , we try to do what we can to protect our children , the love of our lives . You can still own your gun , as our constitution allows ...

At what age and why?  At 18 a person can vote and die for his/her country but cannot have his/her constitutional rights?