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(2018-02-18, 12:13 PM)cdoan Wrote: To protect more of our children, outlaw abortion. To go back to bumstock, do you know what it is? How fast can it fire? Its accuracy? I was an US infantryman, and seldom fired my M16 on automatic mode, except for practice. Want to bring bumstock to a fire fight? Be my guest.
it is funny , allow me to digress ... and I do agree that abortion is wrong . But people public opinion if often different from personal choice . All the family , christian value men who publicly state their support to ban abortion . And when their girl friend from an affair is pregnant , then abortion it is ....
Mấy người mạnh miệng nói publicly này nọ , voice their support of government and life policy , then when it is a personal choice, it can be very much different
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(2018-02-18, 12:15 PM)cdoan Wrote: At what age and why? At 18 a person can vote and die for his/her country but cannot have his/her constitutional rights?
just like you can legally own a car , but can only do 25 miles per hour in a residential zone , just like freedom of speech , but can't yell FIRE in a crowded place ....
this is like a father who has an 18 years old daughter , and she is free to do anything she wants but you still have some restriction for her ....
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(2018-02-18, 12:19 PM)guest1221 Wrote: it is funny , allow me to digress ... and I do agree that abortion is wrong . But people public opinion if often different from personal choice . All the family , christian value men who publicly state their support to ban abortion . And when their girl friend from an affair is pregnant , then abortion it is ....
Mấy người mạnh miệng nói publicly này nọ , voice their support of government and life policy , then when it is a personal choice, it can be very much different
Everybody is different, is it not? Those who want to infringe on the second amendment have their bodyguards carry guns in public too.
I don’t value anybody’s opinion higher than the Constitution, including those of the president.
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(2018-02-18, 12:24 PM)guest1221 Wrote: just like you can legally own a car , but can only do 25 miles per hour in a residential zone , just like freedom of speech , but can't yell FIRE in a crowded place ....
this is like a father who has an 18 years old daughter , and she is free to do anything she wants but you still have some restriction for her ....
There is already a law prohibiting carrying a firearm on the school ground. So what age do you advocate for owning a firearm,and why? See when it comes to a specific issue, one cannot have any realistic idea.
So when someone drives a car at 80 mph in a 25 mph zone and kill few people, you have car control?
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(2018-02-18, 12:28 PM)cdoan Wrote: There is already a law prohibiting carrying a firearm on the school ground. So what age do you advocate for owning a firearm,and why? See when it comes to a specific issue, one cannot have any realistic idea.
perhaps 21 years old so to be consistent with other laws ....
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(2018-02-18, 12:19 PM)guest1221 Wrote: it is funny , allow me to digress ... and I do agree that abortion is wrong . But people public opinion if often different from personal choice . All the family , christian value men who publicly state their support to ban abortion . And when their girl friend from an affair is pregnant , then abortion it is ....
Mấy người mạnh miệng nói publicly này nọ , voice their support of government and life policy , then when it is a personal choice, it can be very much different
Đúng vậy. Dy đồng ý. Abortion thì không đúng nhưng ít ra là sự chọ̣̣ lựa riêng trong gia đình họ. họ không tước đi mạng sống, giết con người khac, làm đau khô ̉ gia đình người khác.
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(2018-02-18, 12:28 PM)cdoan Wrote: There is already a law prohibiting carrying a firearm on the school ground. So what age do you advocate for owning a firearm,and why? See when it comes to a specific issue, one cannot have any realistic idea.
So when someone drives a car at 80 mph in a 25 mph zone and kill few people, you have car control?
so far I see your defensive stands against a non-existent attack on the 2nd amendment , but have not heard anything specific to improve the safety of our children ....
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(2018-02-18, 12:31 PM)guest1221 Wrote: perhaps 21 years old so to be consistent with other laws ....
Why 21? Why do you think a person of 18 years of age, who can vote, can enlist in the military, etc., is not fit to have his/her constitutional right? To buy alcohol, tobacco, etc. is not a constitutional right.
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(2018-02-18, 12:31 PM)Dau-yeu Wrote: Đúng vậy. Dy đồng ý. Abortion thì không đúng nhưng ít ra là sự chọ̣̣ lựa riêng trong gia đình họ. họ không tước đi mạng sống, giết con người khac, làm đau khô ̉ gia đình người khác.
thì bởi vậy Khoa mới nói : people public opinion can be different from personal choices ..... trước mặt cộng đồng hay ở một chổ public place thì cứ mạnh miệng mà nói , support this , against that , ban this , allow that .... Nhưng khi đứng trước 1 chuyện mà mình phải quyết định riêng tư .. thì ... you know
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(2018-02-18, 11:50 AM)cdoan Wrote: Cấm súng đạn thì mọi người được an tâm? Suy nghĩ lại đi nha.
Vậy bây giờ nếu cho súng tự do đi. Rồi một trường họ̣̣c cần bao nhieu ngươì cầm súng đi vòng vòng bả̉o vệ? Rồi mấy bảo vệ đó ai bảo đảm là họ không bắn bậy hay bị giựt súng và ăn súng. Ngay cả bây giờ cdoan có súng rồi có chuyện gì ở trường con của cdoan rồi làm sao chạy đến cứu. Dy bảo đảm trong cái trường bị kia cũng có vài cha mẹ có súng đó chứ nhưng lực thôi . Cũng đâu có feel an toàn . Tru khi cha mẹ xách súng vô trường ngồi học kế con .
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(2018-02-18, 12:35 PM)guest1221 Wrote: so far I see your defensive stands against a non-existent attack on the 2nd amendment , but have not heard anything specific to improve the safety of our children ....
The second amendment is not there to improve the safety of only the children but to all citizens.
I say no more gun free zone. Let the teachers, staffs, parents, etc. have the ability to defend the children instead of some useless laws protect nobody.
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(2018-02-18, 12:39 PM)cdoan Wrote: Why 21? Why do you think a person of 18 years of age, who can vote, can enlist in the military, etc., is not fit to have his/her constitutional right? To buy alcohol, tobacco, etc. is not a constitutional right.
I see how your are defending your right to own guns, and I totally ok with this since I have no problem with the 2nd amendment, but you are not developing solution to help , or suggesting something to help our children .... our lives ....
It is ok, just like the politician , blame, defer , then quiet , then move on ... life moves on .... so are the days of our lives
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(2018-02-18, 12:43 PM)cdoan Wrote: The second amendment is not there to improve the safety of only the children but to all citizens.
I say no more gun free zone. Let the teachers, staffs, parents, etc. have the ability to defend the children instead of some useless laws protect nobody.
Thầy giáo đeo súng bên mình dạ̣̣y họ̣c? Rồi có chuyện bắn qua bắn lại lạ̣̣c đạ̣̣n chết thêm một mớ nữa.
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(2018-02-18, 12:40 PM)Dau-yeu Wrote: Vậy bây giờ nếu cho súng tự do đi. Rồi một trường họ̣̣c cần bao nhieu ngươì cầm súng đi vòng vòng bả̉o vệ? Rồi mấy bảo vệ đó ai bảo đảm là họ không bắn bậy hay bị giựt súng và ăn súng. Ngay cả bây giờ cdoan có súng rồi có chuyện gì ở trường con của cdoan rồi làm sao chạy đến cứu. Dy bảo đảm trong cái trường bị kia cũng có vài cha mẹ có súng đó chứ nhưng lực thôi . Cũng đâu có feel an toàn . Tru khi cha mẹ xách súng vô trường ngồi học kế con .
Vấn đề là mấy thằng đó biết là nó sẽ bị bắn lại và không biết là bị ai bắn. Điều đó làm nó do dự khi nó muốn sách súng vào trường học kiếm chuyện. Cũng như shopping mall chẳng hạn. Đâu phải tất cả mọi người ở đó đều có súng, nhưng mấy thằng đó đâu có ngu mà lại đó kiếm chuyện.
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(2018-02-18, 12:46 PM)cdoan Wrote: Vấn đề là mấy thằng đó biết là nó sẽ bị bắn lại và không biết là bị ai bắn. Điều đó làm nó do dự khi nó muốn sách súng vào trường học kiếm chuyện. Cũng như shopping mall chẳng hạn. Đâu phải tất cả mọi người ở đó đều có súng, nhưng mấy thằng đó đâu có ngu mà lại đó kiếm chuyện.
Có những thằng bắn là nó liều chết tự tử luôn rồi . Nó có kế hoạch hết . Bắn lại đượ̣̣c nó là cũng chết một mớ rồi.
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