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Chim Xanh yêu cầu Supermod và các mod khác xem xét lại hành động của mod Xí Xọn như các member đã posted trên. Để tránh tình trạng thiên vị không công bằng làm phiền lòng members, sẽ làm họ bất mãn rời bỏ sân chơi này
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Just to be cleared , from anh RMGT posting , the only post that was deleted was using derogatory language which we had nicely and privately request . Anh RMGT chose to blantanly ignore the request . All other posts , to the best of our knowledge, were NOT removed as others can still read and decide themselves .
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(2020-11-30, 01:43 AM)chimxanh Wrote: Chim Xanh yêu cầu Supermod và các mod khác xem xét lại hành động của mod Xí Xọn như các member đã posted trên. Để tránh tình trạng thiên vị không công bằng làm phiền lòng members, sẽ làm họ bất mãn rời bỏ sân chơi này
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Just to be cleared , from anh RMGT posting , the only post that was deleted was using derogatory language which we had nicely and privately request . Anh RMGT chose to blantanly ignore the request . Alll other posted , to the best of our knowledge, were NOT removed as others can still read and decide themselves .
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Why don't you (mod) post your own post using your own nick . There is a "reply" button and I am sure you (mod) know how to use it. Why do you feel you should insert your comment in between someone else's post. It's arrogant and very disrespectful, in my opinion.
If it's mod Xi Xon, mod XX hay viết / post về thiền, tu hành, tu tâm nhưng xem ra mod còn lắm "sân si". Practice what you preach.
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Why don't you (mod) post your own post using your own nick . There is a "reply" button and I am sure you (mod) know how to use it. Why do you feel you should insert your comment in between someone else's post. It's arrogant and very disrespectful, in my opinion.
If it's mod Xi Xon, mod XX hay viết / post về thiền, tu hành, tu tâm nhưng xem ra mod còn lắm "sân si". Practice what you preach.
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Mod tu hành mà chơi hèn quá
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Why don't you (mod) post your own post using your own nick . There is a "reply" button and I am sure you (mod) know how to use it. Why do you feel you should insert your comment in between someone else's post. It's arrogant and very disrespectful, in my opinion.
If it's mod Xi Xon, mod XX hay viết / post về thiền, tu hành, tu tâm nhưng xem ra mod còn lắm "sân si". Practice what you preach.
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Mod tu hành mà chơi hèn quá
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Sao biết mod XX viết những post trên mà chữi ngừ ta hèn ? Fake news again
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Tui thấy anh bất mãn là không sai . VB Team cũng nên coi lại để không mất lòng thành viên / guests
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tui thấy bạn này nói đúng. VB Team nên xem lại coi mod nào lộng quyền vậy?
tui thấy RMGT đâu nói, làm gì sai đâu chứ? tại sao mod nào cứ ịn thêm warning vô bài anh ta post là ý gì? VB Team có mấy mods vậy? Và quan điểm của VB Team là bịt miệng members sao?
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While you have the right to post , we retain the right to update/label post as needed . And just like other private entities such as twitter and facebook, we will remove posts with indecent or derogatory language.
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why you not warning other fake news? or you can't distinguish which is fake, which is real news?
Then do not paste your warnings, it is just your own opinion
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You can help us by pointing out fake news. Please Remember , a news must be researched , fully investigated , and vetted . Most importantly , it can not be hearsay or just an opinion.
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So whatever news that Mod XiXon posted are all verified?
She posted quite a few fake news and no action was taken by VB Team
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Be more specific, please
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Biden and Viet Refugees thread
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From the initial review and assessment , the posted information deemed “ postable “ . When resource is available , another evaluation might be conducted. We will make the final determination at the appproriate time.
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Posable
Đám này nó ghen tị vì Xí Xọn post đúng chổ cần post, con tụi như RMGT post ngoài chợ trời, mục đích cho đám giấu mặt vào ủng hộ hay cải lại giùm hắn nhưng ai bất đồng ý kiến ( Trong đó có bạn, gia đình...v.v của RMGT ) + Đám giấu mặt còn lại nó lên tiếng không được nên nó tức, nó chửi thề, gào thét, khíu chọ.
(2020-11-30, 08:23 AM)Btoon Wrote: Đám này nó ghen tị vì Xí Xọn post đúng chổ cần post, con tụi như RMGT post ngoài chợ trời, mục đích cho đám giấu mặt vào ủng hộ hay cải lại giùm hắn nhưng ai bất đồng ý kiến ( Trong đó có bạn, gia đình...v.v của RMGT ) + Đám giấu mặt còn lại nó lên tiếng không được nên nó tức, nó chửi thề, gào thét, khíu chọ.
Vâỵ thì VB mở ra chợ trời với mục đích gì? Nếu đã ra luật thì news nao cũng phải có warning until khi news được verified, không phân biệ́t thành viên, mods hay guests
(2020-11-30, 08:29 AM)Anh2 Wrote: Vâỵ thì VB mở ra chợ trời với mục đích gì? Nếu đã ra luật thì news nao cũng phải có warning until khi news được verified, không phân biệ́t thành viên, mods hay guests
Họ đã warning rồi đám này mới khiếu nãi đó. Họ lập ra chợ trời chắc là để cho đám tạp nhạp, ăn mài, mấy con mụ bán cá, thịt. Chứ không có bàn thông tin.
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Chính xác Anh2 đù Btoon bị đần nên đâu nhìn thấy điều này nó quen sống chung với cọng sản nên não ngắn
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Mấy thằng già này khi mà hết ý thì ví người ta là cộng sãn. Mà thiệt tình đám này ngu hơn cộng sãn nên mới chạy qua đây rống cổ, đéo làm gì được.
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P 861-863
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocu...1969-76v10
Go and read it yourself Mr Supermod!!!
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Vậy thì bài của mod XX posted là fake news SAO KHÔNG BỊ VB TEAM DÁN WARNINGS???
VB TEAM PHẢI LÀM GÌ ĐI CHỚ, SAO ĐỂ CHO MOD XÍ XỌN, XÍ XỌN, XÃNH XẸ, LANH CHANH ĐI DÁN NHÃN WARNING TÙM LUM LÀM MEMBERS BẤT MÃN MOD XÍ XỌN LÀ SUPERMOD CÓ QUYỀN TRÙM VB??? TU HÀNH MÀ SÂN SI QUÁ DỊ ?
'The US has no obligation': Biden fought to keep Vietnamese refugees out of the US
by Jerry Dunleavy, Justice Department Reporter | [/url]
| July 04, 2019 12:01 AM
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Joe Biden, the 2020 Democratic presidential front-runner and advocate of large-scale immigration, once tried to block the evacuation of tens of thousands of South Vietnamese refugees who had helped the United States during the Vietnam War.
As a senator, the future vice president, now 76, was adamant that the U.S. had "no obligation, moral or otherwise, to evacuate foreign nationals," dismissing concerns for their safety as the North Vietnamese Army and Viet Cong swept south toward Saigon in 1975.
His position was in stark contrast to the one he took nearly 30 years later over Iraqi and Afghan interpreters who had worked with U.S. forces. "We owe these people," his then top foreign policy adviser Tony Blinken said in 2012. "We have a debt to these people. They put their lives on the line for the United States."
Biden said in 2015 that keeping Syrian refugees out of the U.S. would be a win for ISIS and tweeted in 2017 that "we must protect, support, and welcome refugees" to maintain the promise of America.
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As South Vietnam collapsed at the end of the Vietnam War in the spring of 1975, President Gerald Ford and the U.S. government undertook to evacuate thousands of South Vietnamese families who had assisted the U.S. throughout the war. The leading voice in the Senate opposing this rescue effort was then-Sen. Joe Biden.
Hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese allies were in danger of recriminations from the Communists, but Biden insisted that “the United States has no obligation to evacuate one — or 100,001 — South Vietnamese.”
In April 1975, Ford argued that, as the last American troops were removed from the country, the U.S. should evacuate the South Vietnamese who had helped the U.S. during the war, too.
“The United States has had a long tradition of opening its doors to immigrants of all countries … And we’ve always been a humanitarian nation,” Ford said. “We felt that a number of these South Vietnamese had been very loyal to the United States and deserved an opportunity to live in freedom.”
But Biden objected and called for a meeting between the president and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to voice his objections to Ford’s funding request for these efforts. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who led the meeting, told the senators that “the total list of the people endangered in Vietnam is over a million” and that “the irreducible list is 174,000.”
Biden said U.S. allies should not be rescued: “We should focus on getting them [the U.S. troops] out. Getting the Vietnamese out and military aid for the GVN [South Vietnam’s government] are totally different.”
Kissinger said there were “Vietnamese to whom we have an obligation,” but Biden responded: “I will vote for any amount for getting the Americans out. I don’t want it mixed with getting the Vietnamese out.”
Ford was upset with Biden’s response, believing that failing to evacuate the South Vietnamese would be a betrayal of American values: “We opened our door to the Hungarians … Our tradition is to welcome the oppressed. I don't think these people should be treated any differently from any other people — the Hungarians, Cubans, Jews from the Soviet Union.”
The Senate Foreign Relations Committee recommended that the bill be passed by the full Senate by a vote of 14 to 3. Biden was one of just three senators on the committee who voted nay. The conference report also passed the Senate as a whole by a vote of 46-17, where Biden again voted against it.
Saigon fell on April 30, 1975, and hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese who did not manage to escape the country were eventually sent to reeducation camps, where they were often abused, tortured, or killed.
Julia Taft, who headed the U.S.’s Inter-Agency Task Force on Indochinese Refugee Resettlement in 1975, told NPR in 2007 that the refugees should have been helped. “I mean, they'd worked with us," she said. "They'd been translators. They'd been employees. They'd been part of the South Vietnamese army, which was an ally, and just general victims of the whole chaos.”
Despite opposition from Biden, and from other leading Democrats at the time, the U.S. military evacuated over 130,000 Vietnamese refugees in the immediate wake of the collapse of South Vietnam, and hundreds of thousands more were resettled inside the U.S. in the following years.
One of those refugees was Quang Pham, who wrote a 2010 autobiography, A Sense of Duty: Our Journey from Vietnam to America, about his escape to the U.S. in 1975 at the age of 10 with his mother and his three sisters, aged 11, 6, and 2. His father, a member of the South Vietnamese military, did not make it out with them and spent over a decade in a reeducation camp before making it to the U.S. in 1992.
Speaking with the Washington Examiner, Pham praised Ford for saving Vietnamese refugees such as his family and criticized Democrats such as Biden for trying to keep them out, saying, “When we needed help, I remember who helped us — and who didn’t.”
Pham, who grew up in the U.S., joined the Marines and served in the First Gulf War, said, "The Vietnamese refugees from 1975 had a lot of help from Americans who lived near the refugee camps and from Vietnam vets who felt they had a debt to help us. And I’m grateful for that."
“When you look at the biggest supporters of Vietnam refugees, it definitely wasn’t Sen. Biden,” Pham said. “The people who wanted us weren’t necessarily who you’d expect — the openness wasn’t coming from Democrats.”
Referring to Biden, Pham said, “You have to look at foreign policy and humanitarianism. The Vietnam refugee crisis was a big deal in 1975. Even if you were against the war, why wouldn’t you support the refugees? Why wouldn’t you support the families and women and children who were trying to escape?”
“If we get involved in wars, there will be refugees ... So we need to think about our moral obligation to non-Americans, especially to our allies,” Pham said.
Asked whether he thought it was fair to judge Biden based on his actions from 1975, Pham replied, “As someone running for President, it’s part of his record, just like everything else."
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