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Bishop Fellay Gives Lecture in Michigan, USA on the State of the Society
Thu, 02/22/2018 - 17:24
Bishop Bernard Fellay, General Superior of the Society of St. Pius X, graciously agreed to give a conference to the faithful of St. Joseph’s Church, in which he spoke of the development of the Society’s relations with Rome. During the course of the evening, that of February 3, 2018, he gave a healthy dose of background information, and an even healthier dose of encouragement and enlightenment on a topic which can appear so dark to Catholics today.
In front of an interested crowd of faithful from St. Joseph’s, Bishop Fellay began the conference by sketching an interesting back-history of the work of the SSPX, calling to mind events and movements that transpired before the Second Vatican Council. He recalled the “human respect” that churchmen fell into, which caused them to avoid a condemnation of Communism and to introduce the poisonous concept of Religious Liberty. This last, it was remarked, was specifically asked of the Church by the Freemasonic B’nai B’rith lodge.
The influence of Communism and Freemasonry did not end at the Council, however, but ravaged the Church extensively in the decades after. The enemies of Christ attacked the heart of His Church by bringing their guns to bear on the priesthood. By planting hand-picked candidates in the seminaries, these enemies managed to reduce the body of priests to a skeleton of its former self in a matter of a few decades. For example, His Excellency noted, there is a parish in France that has two priests, both over sixty years of age, that have been given the care of ninety-two Mass centers. It’s a situation that is truly dramatic, and there is certainly no improvement at this time.
In a few brush-strokes the bishop then painted a brief summary of the Society’s dealings with Rome from its founding in 1970. Among other things, he spoke of the protocol of 1988 – a document which was not perfect but was sufficient in itself, and would have granted the Society its rightful place within the Church. The Archbishop retracted his signature from this document for a practical reason; after prayer he realized that he likely was being fooled, and would not be given a successor.
He mentioned the doctrinal talks of 2009-2011, which showed Rome that the SSPX believes nothing heretical and that modern Catholic teaching on certain points stands in stark contrast to the traditional doctrine of the Church.
Subsequently, pointed out the bishop, there followed many contradictory communications with Rome. Among these, the Society was given a document stating conditions for regularization which which for the Society were unacceptable. Soon after receiving this, the General Superior was told by trustworthy sources close to the then-Pope Benedict, that these conditions were not the will of the pope. It was clear that there were influential men in the Vatican that were effectively blocking the work of the Pope.
More or less, that is where things stand now. A cardinal told Bishop Fellay something that gives a simple explanation to our present problem: “Speaking of the Roman Curia, the system is corrupt.” This statement is disheartening, and might lead anyone with a love for Christ’s Church to be discouraged. This reaction may happen, says the bishop, but it is without foundation. Here we will let him explain in his own words.
 

Quote:There are certain dangers; one danger is discouragement. But no, God allows these things to happen; we must not be discouraged. It just means that it is a long fight. We must continue peacefully; we do what we do, we continue Tradition, we see the fruits, and these fruits speak for themselves.
 

Quote:Another danger is to be ‘fed up’, saying, ‘We should have nothing to do with these people, that’s it, enough. But this is dangerous. We are not talking about a human organization when we speak of the Catholic Church; it’s the Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ which has the promise of divine assistance. We know there are many things which are totally wrong, which are putting people in despair, in confusion, and that’s terrible for souls. Nevertheless, we must maintain that this Church is the Catholic Church. There are many things happening in it that are bad - we reject them, we don’t want them. But we do not reject the Church.
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The bishop then proceeded to explain that the trials we have in the Church are very similar to the trials of the Apostles at the foot of the cross. He pointed out that although Peter declared his faith in Christ’s divinity by a public profession, he reacted when Christ told him of His death. This could not happen if Christ is God, thought Peter.
It’s exactly the same for the Church. In the Church you have a human side - you have human people; and you have a divine side. Right now what we see is not the divine side but the human side. We see the suffering, the heresies, the confusion. Like Jesus suffering, the Church is suffering. We do not have the right to say, because we see these sufferings, that the Church is no longer the Church. God has not abandoned His Church. It’s His Church, how could He? That’s why we continue to go to Rome.
 
Let’s ask the Apostles and the Blessed Virgin Mary to make an act of faith, to keep the right attitude in front of Jesus suffering on the cross. We have to understand that when we see Jesus on the cross we see God. When the Blessed Virgin Mary received Jesus in her arms after His death, she could talk to the living God, because God had not abandoned this most precious Body. The body was dead, but it remained united to the Godhead. Jesus as God was there.
 
The Church is not yet totally dead; the living God is in it. And we are part of this Church.[/size]

Quote:It is a very deep trial. I may say it’s probably the deepest [the Church] has ever had. That’s why we have priests that call themselves the Resistance, or even sedevacantists: they are so fixated on the reality of the sufferings of the Church that they run away.
We reject what is wrong, but we don’t reject the Church.
We have to make this distinction, [as when we say] yes, Jesus is suffering, He’s dying on the cross, but He remains God. While He’s dying on the cross, He’s still moving the stars, He’s judging the people that are dying at that moment. He’s giving strength and His grace to all who receive it. He’s God!
The time we live in is a very, very dangerous one. As I tell you, it is the temptation of the Apostles in the Passion. You know how many of the Apostles remained faithful. Almost all of them ran away. That’s why we cannot pretend to be better than them. We must ask for the grace to be faithful.
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An audio file of the entire conference (2 hours, 30 minutes) is available for download here [1].[/size]



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Bishop Fellay Gives Lecture in Michigan, USA on the State of the Society
Thu, 02/22/2018 - 17:24
Bishop Bernard Fellay, General Superior of the Society of St. Pius X, graciously agreed to give a conference to the faithful of St. Joseph’s Church, in which he spoke of the development of the Society’s relations with Rome. During the course of the evening, that of February 3, 2018, he gave a healthy dose of background information, and an even healthier dose of encouragement and enlightenment on a topic which can appear so dark to Catholics today.

In front of an interested crowd of faithful from St. Joseph’s, Bishop Fellay began the conference by sketching an interesting back-history of the work of the SSPX, calling to mind events and movements that transpired before the Second Vatican Council. He recalled the “human respect” that churchmen fell into, which caused them to avoid a condemnation of Communism and to introduce the poisonous concept of Religious Liberty. This last, it was remarked, was specifically asked of the Church by the Freemasonic B’nai B’rith lodge.

The influence of Communism and Freemasonry did not end at the Council, however, but ravaged the Church extensively in the decades after. The enemies of Christ attacked the heart of His Church by bringing their guns to bear on the priesthood. By planting hand-picked candidates in the seminaries, these enemies managed to reduce the body of priests to a skeleton of its former self in a matter of a few decades.

For example, His Excellency noted, there is a parish in France that has two priests, both over sixty years of age, that have been given the care of ninety-two Mass centers. It’s a situation that is truly dramatic, and there is certainly no improvement at this time.

In a few brush-strokes the bishop then painted a brief summary of the Society’s dealings with Rome from its founding in 1970. Among other things, he spoke of the protocol of 1988 – a document which was not perfect but was sufficient in itself, and would have granted the Society its rightful place within the Church.

The Archbishop retracted his signature from this document for a practical reason; after prayer he realized that he likely was being fooled, and would not be given a successor.

He mentioned the doctrinal talks of 2009-2011, which showed Rome that the SSPX believes nothing heretical and that modern Catholic teaching on certain points stands in stark contrast to the traditional doctrine of the Church.

Subsequently, pointed out the bishop, there followed many contradictory communications with Rome.

Among these, the Society was given a document stating conditions for regularization which for the Society were unacceptable.

Soon after receiving this, the General Superior was told by trustworthy sources close to the then-Pope Benedict, that these conditions were not the will of the pope. It was clear that there were influential men in the Vatican that were effectively blocking the work of the Pope.

More or less, that is where things stand now.

A cardinal told Bishop Fellay something that gives a simple explanation to our present problem: “Speaking of the Roman Curia, the system is corrupt.” This statement is disheartening, and might lead anyone with a love for Christ’s Church to be discouraged. This reaction may happen, says the bishop, but it is without foundation. Here we will let him explain in his own words.
 


Quote:The bishop then proceeded to explain that the trials we have in the Church are very similar to the trials of the Apostles at the foot of the cross.

He pointed out that although Peter declared his faith in Christ’s divinity by a public profession, he reacted when Christ told him of His death. This could not happen if Christ is God, thought Peter.

It’s exactly the same for the Church. In the Church you have a human side - you have human people; and you have a divine side. Right now what we see is not the divine side but the human side.

We see the suffering, the heresies, the confusion. Like Jesus suffering, the Church is suffering. We do not have the right to say, because we see these sufferings, that the Church is no longer the Church. God has not abandoned His Church. It’s His Church, how could He? That’s why we continue to go to Rome.
 
Let’s ask the Apostles and the Blessed Virgin Mary to make an act of faith, to keep the right attitude in front of Jesus suffering on the cross. We have to understand that when we see Jesus on the cross we see God. When the Blessed Virgin Mary received Jesus in her arms after His death, she could talk to the living God, because God had not abandoned this most precious Body. The body was dead, but it remained united to the Godhead. Jesus as God was there.
 
The Church is not yet totally dead; the living God is in it. And we are part of this Church.

An audio file of the entire conference (2 hours, 30 minutes) is available for download here [1].



Source URL: http://sspx.ca/en/news-events/news/bisho...iety-35572
Links:
[1] https://soundcloud.com/fsspx-audiofile/c...feb-3-2018


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Chào Whiltelily, bài này rất hay, phản ảnh đúng tình hình khủng hoảng trong giáo hội hôm nay.
 
Chúng ta hãy cùng cầu nguyện cho có thêm nhiều các đấng bậc tu trì trong GH có lòng can đảm đứng lên cất tiếng nói và tranh đấu để bảo vệ Đức Tin và Chân Lý Sự Thật của Giáo Hội Chân Chính, là Thân Thể Mầu Nhiệm của Chúa Giê-Su Ki-tô, và vạch trần ra những sự giả trá, những tà thuyết đang khoác bên ngoài chiếc áo tình thương khoan dung, công bằng xã hội, tự do cấp tiến ...của bè đảng hội Tam Điểm (Freemasonary), và những hội kín có mưu đồ đánh phá Giáo Hội Chân Chính trong âm mưu tiến đến chế độ Một Tôn Giáo, Một Chính Phủ Toàn Cầu (One World Religion, One World Order), là cửa ngõ cho Anti-Christ bước vào thống trị thế giới ...  Cheer Innocent :rose4: :rose4: :rose4:
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(2018-03-21, 03:00 AM)Riêng Một Góc Trời Wrote: Chào Whiltelily, bài này rất hay, phản ảnh đúng tình hình khủng hoảng trong giáo hội hôm nay.
 
Chúng ta hãy cùng cầu nguyện cho có thêm nhiều các đấng bậc tu trì trong GH có lòng can đảm đứng lên cất tiếng nói và tranh đấu để bảo vệ Đức Tin và Chân Lý Sự Thật của Giáo Hội Chân Chính, là Thân Thể Mầu Nhiệm của Chúa Giê-Su Ki-tô, và vạch trần ra những sự giả trá, những tà thuyết đang khoác bên ngoài chiếc áo tình thương khoan dung, công bằng xã hội, tự do cấp tiến ...của bè đảng hội Tam Điểm (Freemasonary), và những hội kín có mưu đồ đánh phá Giáo Hội Chân Chính trong âm mưu tiến đến chế độ Một Tôn Giáo, Một Chính Phủ Toàn Cầu (One World Religion, One World Order), là cửa ngõ cho Anti-Christ bước vào thống trị thế giới ...  Cheer Innocent :rose4: :rose4: :rose4:

Thanks Riêng Một Góc Trời  Cheer Innocent Tulip4
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Tradition is the Only Possible Future for the Church
Sat, 02/17/2018 - 17:35
Tradition as a pass to the future. Otherwise, the Church is destined to not have a future.
Courtesy: Catholic Family New [1]


February 9, 2018 
Il Giornale Interview [2] with Fr. Buzzi, priest of the Society of Saint Pius X


Tradition represents the only possible future for the Church. Fr. Fausto Buzzi has clear ideas. A priest of the Society of Saint Pius X, founded by Marcel François Lefebvre on November 1, 1970, following the Second Vatican Council, Buzzi is today the assistant to the superior of Italy.


He fought for several years, in the Association Alleanza Cattolica (Catholic Alliance). Then, in 1972, came the meeting with Archbishop Lefebvre and his entrance into the seminary at Ecône. In this exclusive interview, the priest of the Society of Saint Pius X spoke about the doctrinal reunification with the Vatican.

What is still dividing the Society of Saint Pius X from the Catholic Church?


It’s good to clarify that the Society of Saint Pius X doesn’t have anything that separates it from the Catholic Church. We are united to the Catholic Church, and we’ve never been separated from her, despite the divisions with the authorities of the Church. 


Now, these divisions do not come from us. Archbishop Lefebvre always said that they condemned him, he who was the first to be praised by the Popes, especially Pius XII. 

It is Rome that changed, and with the Second Vatican Council distanced herself from the centuries-old Tradition of the Church. To be succinct, one can say that what separates us from Rome are grave and fundamental doctrinal problems.

A Catholic parish priest once told me: “They talked a lot about schism, but they never had the theological caliber of Archbishop Lefebvre.” Is that so?


Many criticize or condemn the Society of St. Pius X without knowing it, and without understanding the grave reasons for which place it in hostility with the ecclesiastical authorities. 


Today many people, priests and lay persons, are starting to ask themselves what is taking place in the Church, and are opening their eyes to the fact that those who have been labeled for many years as schismatics, are perhaps those who have remained the most faithful to the Catholic Church, and paradoxically, the most faithful to the Papacy. 

In our seminaries, Archbishop Lefebvre wanted us to study the Summa of St. Thomas Aquinas, and the other classical theology texts. I assure you, that it was a great grace for us to receive such a profound and solid formation.

What is your opinion on Pope Francis?


For us, Pope Francis isn’t any better or worse than the other Popes of the [Second Vatican] Council and the post-Conciliar era. He works “on the same building site” begun by John XXIII, that of the auto demolition of the Catholic Church, to construct another that conforms to the liberal spirit of the world. 


Actually, I’ll say something further: the current Pope is not as responsible as was Paul VI. This Pope saw the Council through, he finished it, he made all of the reforms. 

Now, all of this is the cause of the gravest crisis which we see in the Church

Certainly, these actions and words of Pope Francis seem graver than those of his predecessors. But that’s not the case. Today, it’s the media effect that makes things much more evident, than was previously the case.  In substance, however, the actions of Paul VI were much graver than those of Francis.  

But Bergoglio seems to have taken more steps forward, in your (the SSPX’s) regard…
Certainly he has not taken doctrinal steps forward, in our regard. Rather he considers us as an institution of the “periphery.” 


As such, we are the recipient of certain kindnesses on his part. When he was a cardinal in Buenos Aires, one of our priests brought him the life of our Founder to read. He read it, and was left with a serious impression; perhaps this, too, contributed to him having special consideration for us.  

Many ask themselves, however, why he wasn’t so kind to the Franciscans of the Immaculate who had been decidedly embracing Catholic Tradition. Instead, he treated them harshly, with extreme severity, to the detriment of mercy.

Many consider you “extremists” of the Faith…???

Look, Faith is a theological virtue, it’s a theological virtue that can grow infinitely, because the object is God Himself, so there’s no limit to faith. In this sense, being extremists would be something virtuous. 


That said, I can quote the words of Our Lord when He said, for example, “He that is not with Me, is against Me” or the words of St. Peter: “there is no other Name under Heaven given to men, whereby we must be saved.” Tell me if these aren’t “extremist” words. If we then consider the Martyrs who died rather than betray their Faith, how do we judge them? As extremists? It seems to me than the sense of the Faith is being lost.

What do you think of the doctrinal debate surrounding Amoris Laetitia?


You’re causing me to repeat myself, with this question. If on one hand, all the initiatives to correct this document and to defend the Christian family (indissoluble and sanctified by a sacrament) have been praiseworthy, the true problem is upstream.


 Do you know where the root of Amoris Laetitia lie? We find them in the Council document Gaudium et Spes. 

Therefore, as I said the terrible crisis in the Church is traced back to her DNA, that is, Vatican II. 

Think about it: if, instead of Gaudium et Spes, Pius XI’s encyclicalI Casti Connubi was published in its place; would we have the catastrophic Amoris Laetitia today? I don’t think so.  


What about the rehabilitation of Luther?


What do you want me to tell you? To rehabilitate the biggest heresiarch in history, he who laicized the whole Christian Religion, who caused the Church to lose entire nations, is a doctrinal suicide and the falsification of history. 


The rehabilitation of Luther is part of the ecumenical utopia of the past 50 years. A utopia which leads Catholics to apostasy, which is no longer silent but deafening.

I suggest reading a new book on Luther published recently: Il vero volto di Lutero ("The True Face of Luther," Edizioni Piane) written by one of our priests, a professor of ecclesiology at the seminary of Ecône. One will understand the absurdity of this false rehabilitation, reading this book.

Do you think a future doctrinal reunification between you and the Vatican, is possible?

I am not a prophet. I wish that this would take place, above all for the salvation of many souls who risk losing themselves for eternity. 


But if you’ll allow me, I want to tell you what we can do today to contribute to the triumph of Tradition in the Church. 

We must ourselves - each Catholic - bishops, priests and [lay] faithful, return to the Catholic Tradition of all time, and nobody must fear feeling themselves to be against the authorities of the Church. 

Because, in fact, this isn’t going against them, but on the contrary, it’s the most effective way to help them understand that returning to Tradition is the one and only future of Holy Church.


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